In this episode, we interview Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and reconnect with North Norfolk's untamed coastal beauty.

 

We discuss how to craft a strong narrative around your brand, why it’s useful to have a second income source in those challenging early days, increasing brand awareness on Instagram, and how to find other growth engines.

  • 00:00:01 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Hi, I'm Chris, founder, senior brand designer and growth marketing strategist at House of hiatus brand Growth Studio, who wants to document innovative and disruptive ideas from successful small to medium sized enterprises. Tell startups to get strong market position as quickly as possible. In this episode, I interview Henry Chamberlain, former romance.

    00:00:20 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Commander, Officer, humanitarian security adviser and founder of coastal exploration company, it's a business that offers eco friendly selling experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops to reconnect with North Norfolk's untamed coastal beauty.

    00:00:33 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    We discuss how to craft a strong narrative around your brand, what it's useful to have a second income source during those challenging early days, increasing brand awareness on Instagram and how to find other growth.

    00:00:42 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Engines.

    00:00:57 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Hey, Henry. Hey. It's great to have you on the House of Heaters.

    00:01:00 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Podcast how's it going?

    00:01:01 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Very good. It seems like haven't seen you for years, Chris, which in fact I haven't. So that's quite accurate. But yes, it's it's going well. The business has developed since I last saw you.

    00:01:11 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yeah. No, I was just looking for my phone. Actually, it's been about 2 1/2 years, actually, since we we were last chatting. Yeah, time has literally flown.

    00:01:18 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    By right now, hasn't it?

    00:01:18 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Yes, it has. Crikey, can't believe it's that dumb.

    00:01:24 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Can you do me? Do me a favour and just tell us a little bit more about the coastal exploration company like where the idea came from and the genesis of it of it because it looks fantastic.

    00:01:35 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Thank you. Well, first of all, thanks for inviting me, Chris, great to be here and good to see your progress as well on the House of hiatus so.

    00:01:43 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Great stuff. So I back in 2000 and about 1514, I've been out of the Marines for about 6-7, eight years. I've been working as a humanitarian and some quite extreme places. I mean, in the Marines, I didn't really deploy anywhere particularly exciting.

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    Yeah.

    00:02:02 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Afghanistan hadn't started and Mr.

    00:02:05 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    But in the in the my humanitarian work, I I suppose I've got my fill of operational experience. So, Chechnya, Afghanistan, Darfur, South Sudan, and I was sitting on a beach in Mogadishu during the the famine of about 2011 and had a particularly tough week, would have a suicide.

    00:02:25 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Attacker detonated just outside our office, of which we knew the guy we had had.

    00:02:33 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Numerous other security incidents like that. So just remember sitting on the beach Indian Ocean at the end on a Friday afternoon thinking right, you know, I enjoy this work. I'm probably not gonna last if I keep doing it physically and also in terms of mental health. So I sketched out what would be my ideal business work. Where would I be? What would I do?

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    Yeah. Anything.

    00:02:53 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    And I narrowed it down geographically from Norfolk. That's where my kids, my family, are from. So I wanted to be around there. I love the sea, the coast. I love old traditional boats like helping people. I like adventure and I wanted to run my own thing. So I.

    00:03:08 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Just started sketching out what my business and my way ahead would be and I and I came up with a coastal exploration company. Of course it mutated, but that's where the Genesis was in the beach on the East Coast of Africa.

    00:03:23 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Wow. I mean, that's out of everyone who I've interviewed so far. That's probably the most interesting genesis of of growing a business because it, I mean it makes absolute sense. Clearly, you know when you're somewhere that's that's so dangerous and so frenetic and wild that actually it can sometimes be the best places for ideas.

    00:03:42 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Fund it because it forces your your thinking into a way.

    00:03:45 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Now it's it's just outside of the the norms, I guess.

    00:03:49 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Yes, exactly. And I think it was that particular week as well. As I said, we had the one suicide attack some more. We got more tired by al Shabaab and we also had another suicide attacker late that evening, got into our compound as well and we couldn't find them. So it was just sitting down with that blank sheet of paper thinking.

    00:04:04 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Oh wow.

    00:04:08 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Right, this isn't where it's OK for the moment. But you know where? Where can I take my life? So yeah, really useful.

    00:04:17 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yeah, and and just just for everyone kind of listening, can you give me like a brief outline of the the services and and and kind of what what's what's it deliver deliver the crystal exploration company cause I've seen you the the website is cool, it's got you know loads of beautiful pictures on those see. But just to everyone listening.

    00:04:34 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Yes. So we've restored 6 traditional North Norfolk fishing boats and they range from a.

    00:04:42 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    A 16 foot punt to a muscle flat to a crab boat to a 42 foot Norfolk shrimper so they're all the range of fishing boats were operated in wash and North Norfolk going back 100 years and some of the boats made to operate under sail never would have had engines. So it's the idea of the preservation of these original craft.

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    Wow.

    00:05:03 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Which I just think are beautiful anyway using sail and using using them to access. I don't know if you've know the North Norfolk coast, but some beautiful parts to it creeks salt marsh.

    00:05:14 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Means, so it's getting people into these areas and then engaging them in adventurous activities. So we would have sailed their ready wild swimming, foraging, cooking and ultimately it's about connecting people in nature. So it's using the boats, the history, the physical activity, the connection with good local food.

    00:05:34 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    To to slow us all down from this, this modern world and disconnect and recharge.

    00:05:40 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yeah, that's absolutely fascinating. I love the way that it it not only uses the these beautiful modern boats cause for people listening here, the website does show absolutely stunning photos of the you know, these these beautiful, beautiful vessels and but then also you also combine it with other things. So the the foraging.

    00:06:00 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    The the actual wild cooking, the wild swimming. I think it's just it's just a a really beautiful.

    00:06:07 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Products that just captures a lot of different elements that you would would ordinarily be available on their own, but actually brings them all together and obviously it slows down. But from like you said that digital digital assault on the senses.

    00:06:13 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Yes.

    00:06:20 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Yes, exactly, Chris, it's. I didn't want it to be a sailing company about getting in the boats and just being over focused on the vessels and they're all works, they're all Oakland Larch. So they're you could just make a business out of them, but for me, it's more about the adventure, the discovery and also look looking within, you know, recharging our soul.

    00:06:40 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Then, when you've been through like you have, you've been through a fairly kinetic and interesting career. I think you need at times in your life just this space to.

    00:06:51 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    To calm calm the nerves and reset and part of that was part of my journey. After the intense humanitarian work.

    00:06:59 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yeah, no, it it makes complete sense as well, but I think also.

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    And.

    00:07:03 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Given your background, obviously in the Royal Marines is that there's a there's a there's almost like an education element to it as well, isn't there, where you can teach them, you know, the foraging. You can teach them the the cooking over the fire. You know, a lot of these, these very fundamental life skills as such, you know, it's an opportunity for that where you can take them out on the.

    00:07:22 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    On the ships.

    00:07:25 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    You know, kind of sell somewhere on an expedition and then also forage and and create something. I think that's my my one of my interests is, is this kind of idea that slow travel and about how it's actually really good for mental health because it it gives us things to concentrate on that aren't so far in the future that you can look at. You know you look at your cooking.

    00:07:45 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Look at your, you know, slow travel. I've. I've been obsessed with with bike packing recently and I can see the similarities between how I enjoy, you know, staying in a tent and packing up my mountain bike and and cycling around for multiple days with, you know, with what you're describing of this.

    00:08:02 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    You know his beautiful old boats and the foraging and the Swale swimming. And it's a real, real kind of back to nature experience, which I think is brilliant.

    00:08:09 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Yes. Well, thank you, Chris. I I think the one thing that demonstrates that really well is that the world swimming trip trips, we do. So first of all to sell these boats and it's all hands on. They're simple lug rigs. There's nothing complicated. But you know, you got to be in the moment, you gotta concentrate, you gotta work with each other. So you get into the.

    00:08:27 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Marsh. And then we drop the anchor and then we follow some of the creeks within the salt marsh. And of course, in the North Sea, it's not that warm. So you've got that cold water treatment, but it just has, since you jump, it brings you into the here and now and you've got a 100% focus.

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    Good.

    00:08:42 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    And what you're.

    00:08:43 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Doing and we might swim for 500 metres A kilometre the distance.

    00:08:47 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Doesn't really matter, but then you come out, get a hot drink on, so it brings you into now, but also connects you with the people you're with and also your environment. And I I think that's one of the as you say that is one of the key things.

    00:09:01 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yeah. And I and I guess so, I mean, I can see there's a very obvious connection for things like corporate corporate leadership, corporate well-being, you know, getting teams together to work on, you know, work on like this mini expeditions and stuff. Do you is it, is it just corporate you do or is it sort of family?

    00:09:20 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Is it the B2CB2B stuff?

    00:09:23 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Yeah. So it's a complete mixture, Chris. So that's the nice thing with our fleet. So you can take four people out of the muscle flat or two on a punt and it's very intimate. It can be an experience for a couple to large families, to a corporate event. I don't know if you know mission performance.

    00:09:38 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Extraordinary Adventure Club, both of them run by ex Royal Marines and, of course, their thinking is very, very attuned to ours. So I've run numerous corporate events with them and other similar organisations. Mike Geldard as well and some of his his team. And so we can combine two of the larger vessels. So we could take a team of say 20 people.

    00:09:59 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Out for a corporate event.

    00:10:02 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Very yeah.

    00:10:02 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    So yes, it it sounds, it sounds to me like there's there's loads of different directions of business could go in which, but I'm going to get ahead of myself if I keep on going down that path. But I definitely wanna kind of loop back around to that later on the podcast. And one of the one of the so one of the kind of fundamental questions I like to.

    00:10:17 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Yes.

    00:10:22 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    To ask the the established businesses for to help the startups is kind of how how do you know how customers find you? How do they become aware of coastal exploration company?

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    Yeah.

    00:10:32 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Yes. So that's interesting, Chris. I I had no background in marketing, media, social media, anything before I started. So my gut reaction initially was well, fly runs around the expensive hotels, cafes on the North Norfolk coast. So that garnered a certain amount of interest. I then made a a real effort to engage with the national newspapers.

    00:10:52 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    So had a good and still have a good working relationship with the travel section of The Sunday Times.

    00:10:58 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    The Guardian, then the Telegraph. So they all came out and wrote some really lovely articles about what we what we do, so that probably I'd say was second tier. And then lastly the social media, Instagram in particular has been probably now is the the driving force behind getting new business in spreading the word.

    00:11:19 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    You know, discussing what we do because we're kind of quite visual, Instagram fits it really well. So yes, incredibly powerful.

    00:11:28 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yeah, yeah. Now I'm just thinking back to seeing kind of all the the beautiful photos. Like I said before it, it's got this real lifestyle quality about it in that it's it. It sounds like it would fit Instagram incredibly well because it's just, you know, these really stylish photos. I I guess it does lead me on to ask is so I guess presumably YouTube is something.

    00:11:48 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    You'll you'll work on in the future. Or is that something you've experimented with in the past and found any success with with with that?

    00:11:56 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Platform.

    00:11:57 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    No, there's. There's still so much more I need to do. So Instagram is the main effort at the moment. LinkedIn I need to do a bit more YouTube. You know, I need to get going on it is.

    00:12:07 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    I mean with, with any business owner, when you first start, there's a million things to do and then you have to prioritise say right for the moment I'm gonna do XY and Z, do them well. And then as we progress, I'll, I'll switch on to other platforms. So and I I still do a bit of security work other stuff like you. So I still have chunks of time where I'm away.

    00:12:12 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yeah.

    00:12:20 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    As it's.

    00:12:28 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    So YouTube, hopefully once I can step back from the other work, I will I'll look at.

    00:12:33 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yeah. No. Yeah, it's. I mean, one one thing I've kind of found is is advising some of these startups actually is, is that like you say pick one platform and and use that as a springboard for the other ones. Don't try and spread themselves across too thin across, you know, cause it there's so many platforms out there now you could you could spend all of your time just hopping.

    00:12:53 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Between each each platform for content and finding that there's nothing they really gain near traction. Yes. So yeah, it's it's cool to hear that. Actually you found Instagram was was your your major driver early on and and then you're like we can do from there and go into other areas.

    00:13:00 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Yes.

    00:13:05 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Yes.

    00:13:09 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    What's interesting, Chris and I, I didn't really.

    00:13:12 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    You know, consider it first of all, but we've got lots of work, photo shoots, film, etcetera through Instagram. So we did a lovely collaboration with Brompton recently. Toast, Clothing, magazine, some clothing company. So all of that comes from the Instagram. And then seeing what we do in the lifestyle approach and then approaching.

    00:13:32 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Us Audi as well. We did a lovely film with Audi last summer, so that's come from Instagram, which is incredible.

    00:13:41 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yeah, local, I guess, I guess it's just it's just.

    00:13:43 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Making me think.

    00:13:45 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Out loud now as I get I I can see how like clothing, food there's there's potentially loads of more. I think about it loads of companies who actually could they could use the vessels as the perfect photo shoot location to get the lifestyle across that they.

    00:14:01 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Well, the the field that they want to get across.

    00:14:03 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    So, you know, like Musto, for example, or Marks and Spencers for the food and you know can can see loads of spin-off places now. Now you mention it.

    00:14:13 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Yes. Well, we had Jules earlier this year, the clothing brand Henry Lloyd Sebago. So it works well.

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    Yeah.

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    But.

    00:14:23 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    So yes, that's been really and also the more you do with that, then you can share the content and that gets wider interest and more other companies.

    00:14:30 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Avoids massively supported photographers and trying to always to find a budget because every photographer tells a story while story in such a different way and captures somebody else. So yeah, the power of media, social media photography is, I understand, absolutely drives. It's one of the the fundamental drivers of the business.

    00:14:51 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yeah. Fascinating. I remember it kind of made me think of back to doing kind of recruiting for the Royal Marines back in 2012. Actually we we it was a time when social media was still a bit new and kind of, dare I say fearful. You know, we didn't really know what, you know what? What we should really do with take the Marines into social media and and and it was.

    00:14:52 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Ross.

    00:15:11 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Really, a year of experimentations where we were trying to get on Facebook, we tried a bit on.

    00:15:15 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    We didn't redo Instagram back then, but yeah, it was. It was. It was just coming into it. I remember writing a white paper saying I think the Royal Marines, we should lean into social media more for a group team because it seems like an organic way to.

    00:15:26 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Reach more.

    00:15:27 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    People I can't figure out how we how we should do that. So it wasn't.

    00:15:27 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Yes.

    00:15:32 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Yes.

    00:15:33 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    But it wasn't the most used to the the call.

    00:15:35 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    All the time, but no vacant. Well, well. So it sounds like the brand has undergone some change to kind of help it stand out and find its the optimal path. I guess to to the customer.

    00:15:50 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Have you have you had to? Have you had any problems standing out? Have you? Have you tried things that haven't worked? Have you have you found things that some things that work better than others, like Instagram, like your own?

    00:16:02 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Yeah, I think I found Chris that because the boats are so unique and original, we've got these lovely red sails and the Norfolk coast is so different as an adventure environment.

    00:16:12 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    So a lot of companies that are looking for in the in the arena of adventure will be mountains. There'll be hills, there'll be Moors. But Norfolk with the sandbanks is it's quite different. So I think because of our operating environment, our boats, we've already stood out and we've just been very lucky there as I just found, that's naturally led us on to clients.

    00:16:33 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Being interested, I mean in all sorts of different areas. And then the other thing that was quite fortuitous as well is that of course we're close to London. So whether it's a shoot, whether it's an expedition, people can jump on a.

    00:16:42

    Then.

    00:16:44 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Brain and and I think I I'd always considered that as a factor before, but I hadn't perhaps realised how really powerful our boats and the visuals were. So that's, you know you you're constantly learning every, every day as you progress.

    00:16:59 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yeah, I mean, it's fascinating what you. So what you're saying there is essentially kind of fitting in these almost like micro expeditions into your weekend for professionals that are based in.

    00:17:08 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    London, yeah.

    00:17:09 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Yes.

    00:17:10 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Could they could literally jump on the train on a Friday afternoon.

    00:17:13 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    And come and and come and do something which which is.

    00:17:18 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    You know, gives them some confidence. It's a bit of a relaxing experience, but a cool, you know, photographic experience, I guess. So people, I guess people come and you you must get a lot of clients from London who come up on a a Friday and then probably stay till Sunday and then and then roll back and actually go into work recharged again.

    00:17:35 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Yes. Well, it's, I mean the train from London to Kings Lynn is an hour and what? 30-40 minutes. So that's quite easy to do. And OK, 30 minute drive or you can drive up and it takes a couple of hours.

    00:17:46 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Plenty of lovely places to stay as well, so they can come up on a Friday. We can start early on Saturday morning and then back in by Sunday lunchtime and then the afternoon to, you know, return or do it or do it. Long day package. But the 24 hour one is nice because you get this this spectrum of the different tides.

    00:18:06 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    So when people turn up, everything will be flooded. The tides in and think, OK, great. The seas right here on the boats.

    00:18:13 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Six hours later, the sea disappears because the tide goes out, of course, and you've got just sand, and then it's a completely different environment, which unless you see it, I mean, it still amazes me. And I'm used to it. So people coming from London and then you can do all the other stuff we do, the spear fishing, foraging while cooking.

    00:18:25 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yes.

    00:18:32 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    And it's that constant changing, shifting environment that makes it so unique.

    00:18:37 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean the the more I think about it is I guess you could, you could always run.

    00:18:42 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Drugs have, like groups of different people. There's that community spirit isn't. You could have groups of different people who come from London who've never met each other before, but work in different industries, who then come and do like a 24 hour expedition and probably go home with with some new friends. And, you know, and some insight into, you know, what it's like.

    00:18:52 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Yes.

    00:19:02 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Working in at a finance or media or or assurance something like that across London. It's kind of a.

    00:19:04 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Yes.

    00:19:06

    Yes.

    00:19:08 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Well, I don't.

    00:19:08 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Know if you do you know what do you know? Ian Finch from walk wild.

    00:19:08 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    The more I think about it.

    00:19:13 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

    00:19:15 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Yeah. So hey, Ian comes up once a month. He will have exactly as you say. He'll bring six people from all over London. Normally, he takes them on walks, but he'll come and do a a sale and walk with us. So come up, stay on the main boat. We'll go out at six or whenever in the morning I'll do a sale. Amphibious.

    00:19:33 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Insertion for him. Then you're doing his walk, then you'll camp, and then I'll do a pick up.

    00:19:39 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Somewhere on the salt marsh. And we bring them back to wells. So it it goes to the roots of, you know, what we do. And our background, doesn't it as Royal Marines, which is a nice thing, but it's. Yeah, that's a good example of a group coming out from London and always goes down really well.

    00:19:47

    Yeah.

    00:19:56 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yeah. Fascinating. I'm just because I'm thinking like one of the one of the reasons I left London at the time was because it's it's so phonetic, there isn't really. There wasn't really any way you could. You could just kind of relax and.

    00:20:07 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Just just take that. Uh, something away from screen time. But what what? What you're saying here is, you know, makes absolute sense to me and that you could come out and have this cool experience, meet new people, get different insights. Yeah. And and just get a whole range of experiences which and then going back into work on a Monday back into the office on the Monday and then.

    00:20:20 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Yes.

    00:20:27 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    But have those those memories still feel fresh and and, you know, kind of readily available. It's fascinating.

    00:20:29 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Yes.

    00:20:34 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Yes, yes, that's exactly it. And we, we do anything from a walk wild within Finch. We do a a smuggling package where we use.

    00:20:47 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Basically, advanced Siemens skills that we teach, but it's agent to V how to discreetly move through the salt marsh, how to escape and evade. So we bring that all together in it really hurts back to when North Norfolk was one of the main smuggling points from France with the luggers.

    00:20:55

    Sure.

    00:21:07 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Coming backwards and forwards because the myriad of creeks and salt marsh, it was very easy to get in, hide, drop off and then disappear again. Yeah. So that's an example of a slightly different approach, but there's all sorts of different angles you can apply to the trips that we do.

    00:21:22 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yeah, definitely. Yeah. Well, it does leave me on to my next question then is, I guess you you can you can describe some really cool packages now how, how has the business had to change its its kind of products and services in the last of the years. I mean particularly with the the pandemic, I'd imagine that it the the services then were sorely needed, but I'm guessing.

    00:21:41 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    And.

    00:21:42 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Presumably that people weren't allowed to come and do that sort of thing, or did you have to adapt it to to, you know, to fit during that period?

    00:21:49 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Well, in some ways we're very lucky, Chris, because a lot of our trips are for a family, four people, group of friends. So you can take four people on a muscle flat and that's a household or the larger boats. We can take 8 and that could be classified as a household.

    00:22:04 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    So very quickly, when we were back in operational again and one of the few activities you could do because we're just such small groups of people.

    00:22:13 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    And then also at the same time we developed based on the need for people to get into nature, to reset a lot of people were stressed. We did a more of a Wellness sale. So getting people a small group of people on a boat taking their phones away, completely detaching them from the modern world, explaining about the tides.

    00:22:33 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Getting on to do breathing exercises and meditation going into the salt marsh.

    00:22:39 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    A wild swim to completely disconnect them again, warm them up and bring them back in and and invite them to reflect on where they are and what they want to do. So that was something that instil is very popular as well. After the media post pandemic period. So that's One Direction which is business has gone.

    00:22:58 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Which has been very, very popular.

    00:23:02 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    So a bit of a contentious question here. Feel free to to answer it if you if if you want is can you see the business launching any new products or services over the next over the coming years and like I said feel free not to not to answer that one if you're like no actually we've got this like secret plan for this call new.

    00:23:19 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Things.

    00:23:19 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Yes, that's that's fine, Chris. We've spent the last ohh. Crikey goes back three years refurbishing a new boat and I mentioned it earlier, it's it's a 42 foot.

    00:23:30 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    ********* smack yeah made in 1923 in Kings Lynn, it's the last of its kind and the last boat that would have fished under sail so completely. It looks like a 1920s yacht and I can't believe they used them for.

    00:23:43 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Fishing. So beautiful thing.

    00:23:45 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    We've just got to have the failed sails fitted next month and then we'll be launching.

    00:23:50 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Some longer trips into the wash.

    00:23:53 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    On that boat and we will hopefully be doing a bit of free diving on the chalk grief near, showing them perhaps do some surfing trips and also some delivery of cargo. So moving the the coffee that we serve comes from South America on a schooner under sail then gets.

    00:24:12 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    So we only serve sustainable products. So it comes up to Kings Lynn. We roast it and then we'll sail it from Kings live round to our HQ and Wales. So you complete the loop that the the products are only moved sustainably, not using fossil fuels so.

    00:24:27

    Yes.

    00:24:29

    That's.

    00:24:29 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    That's. That's it. I had sorry. I had no idea that you guys do coffee as well, but that's it's fascinating when it come, it comes under sale and obviously it's it's moved incredibly sustainable. I mean that's a cool USP for I guess, I mean is it is it a side product, is it like it's it's not the obviously the main service.

    00:24:43 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Yes.

    00:24:45 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Well, I've. I've always been interested in the sale cargo movement, so there's in Cornwall. Lots of companies. New Dawn traders is the one that does a lot of the brokering schooners coming across from South America with coffee, chocolate and various other products.

    00:24:59 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    So I've tapped into that network and then we'll we'll hopefully launch some chocolate that's been sold across the Atlantic as well. So, yeah, because the sustainability is important to us and we love all the the connection with the larger ships going backwards and forwards. So this larger boat would enable us to do some more of that, perhaps in connection with.

    00:25:07

    Very cool.

    00:25:19 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    London as well, but have yet to announce those plans.

    00:25:23 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yeah. No, I think it's fascinating. I think. I think the coffee brand could be its own entity at some point if you want because it's so it's.

    00:25:32 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    It's a good unique selling point that actually it's come across entirely by sustainable power as well because it's, yeah, there's not many brands that can say that.

    00:25:37 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Yes, yes.

    00:25:40 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    I need somebody in your network can help.

    00:25:42 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Me with them fitting Christ on this. So but.

    00:25:48 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Not not to not to sell anything. I just. I think it's fascinating how like this, you know, even on this podcast, I hear about these cool things that are going on there. So that's such a a unique angle take on something.

    00:25:59 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Yes.

    00:26:00

    It's.

    00:26:00 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    You know different.

    00:26:01 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Well, I think it's in our nature you're the same, but all of the other ex Marines that you speak to, we're we're happy to try anything and quite broad minded and you know not afraid also to take risks so.

    00:26:14 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    And Ian Finch does the same. He'll use the same supply chain for his walk while the coffee comes across from South America. So the idea when we go out to our trips and we're not using any diesel engines, so in the muscle flat it's sail and Scull.

    00:26:28 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    When we stop and serve the coffee, it's a great story to to engage with the clients as well and say, look, here's the coffee, you know, this is where it came from. So we serve it and then the idea is we'll sell it as well on. But it's it hopefully makes individual trips a lot stronger and gives a more depth to them.

    00:26:41

    Yeah.

    00:26:48 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    And more, more memorable as well, because obviously if they're they're having the entire experience, that's that's only done sustainably it it's, you know it's gonna be something you're gonna want to tell friends and family about because it's like, you know in this day and age you can still do this.

    00:27:02 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Things that you know have zero impact, yes. Thanks.

    00:27:04 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Yeah, well, let's hope that that's the idea. I mean, it's still quite early days, but you know this is one way that we I would certainly love to take it. We are taking it.

    00:27:15 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yeah, fantastic stuff. I mean it, it does quite quite lead me on to.

    00:27:20 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Looking on to the next question, actually quite well is kind of what do you see that as? The main challenge to start up trying to grow in, in the current climate? I mean, it's not obviously it's a different financial climate. What do you see?

    00:27:35 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    The the startups having to to wrestle with the most, I guess if they're used to or again.

    00:27:39 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Yes. Well, if I, if I would say sitting down with the guys about to leave the Marines or the service and they're thinking about starting their own business, I.

    00:27:47 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Mean, I think.

    00:27:49 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Having complete belief in what you're doing and then and then just having the.

    00:27:55 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    The focus which a lot of us do just to follow it through because it's amazing how many people will come along with completely different perspectives or understanding or trying to throw you off course. Not deliberately, but they'll say, well, that won't work as a business, but you should do this and do that. So it's having this, this belief in yourself that you will be successful.

    00:28:09

    Yeah.

    00:28:15 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Understanding it's it's not straightforward. You get lots of setbacks. You're gonna struggle financially for a while, but if you can just persevere and push through all of that, then you know things start to slot in place. So I think for me, it's just having the confidence just to keep going.

    00:28:31 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yeah. And I guess probably just taking on taking what you you just said about the coffee is that I guess during the journey you can actually find other avenues as well which might might be fruitful in their own right, you know so so I'm I'm really like coffee thinking that be like a really cool standalone thing on its own. You know, I wonder, I wonder if you know there's an opportunity there that actually you're.

    00:28:31 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Is is to struggle.

    00:28:45 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Yes.

    00:28:53 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    You're serving this coffee up to people, and actually they might gonna probably gonna come back to you and buy it in the future because it's got such a strong narrative around it as well, which which is then obviously plays back to the the positivity of around the original brand and obviously the coastline operating company.

    00:29:02 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Yes.

    00:29:07 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Yes, yes, there's a famous quote. I think it's roomy, isn't it about, you know, follow the path and then the the path will open or the path will show you the way. So as long as you're you've got the nerve or got the ability to take the first step, it will all unfold in front of you.

    00:29:24 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    And I had no ideas that a lot of these boats I never had. I never even knew there was a Norfolk shrimp boat that would have been mailed, made to work under sail. But I only discovered two or three years into the business, and that's opened up another complete different field and area. I didn't realise there were punts. So just by starting and following the path.

    00:29:40

    Yeah.

    00:29:44 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    All these little sidetracks appear that you never knew about from day one. So yes, I philosophical about that.

    00:29:49 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yeah.

    00:29:51 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    I mean, did you?

    00:29:54 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yeah. No, it's the same. But you know, it's kind of like, you know, reminiscing my own network as well, you know, kind of working the BBC back in 2016 always had and opened up this whole whole new path into kind of content and marketing and as well as just the, the, the design stuff that I started with, like 20 years ago. But I think I think it's, I think it's fascinating.

    00:30:11 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Yes.

    00:30:14 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    That the whole, like you said, like the logistics sort of thing as well is it, is it?

    00:30:19 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    I wonder if there's there's a market for sustainable logistics, which actually you know now, now you've got all the assets, all the you know the, the the sailing assets is that you've almost got a whole new market you can explore in terms of you know we where we can move things around sustainably around the country, can't we?

    00:30:37 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Yes.

    00:30:38 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    It's under sale.

    00:30:39 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Well, it's what we're hoping to do, Chris is have.

    00:30:42 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    So there is a network already, and there's there's a schooner that comes into London and sometimes up as far as Yarmouth and there's a sailing barge, so we're trying to open up the East Coast part of that sustainable supply chain. So going down to London or Yarmouth picking up, we've done it with olive oil as well. Coffee, chocolate.

    00:31:01 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    And then distribute it along the East Coast as far as we can so.

    00:31:05 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    That's an area we are we are looking at and trying to expand into, but it's it's it's a massive task because you're completely changing people's perspectives and what's possible. And I remember going into there's a chat made apple juice in a local town. I said, you know, I've got a proposition for you. I do it free of charge. But how about if I deliver?

    00:31:26 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Your apple juice to kings, Lynn. I'll save it there for you. So you can say it's sustained be delivered. And you looked at me. He said, mate, I've got the van. I'll be.

    00:31:34 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    There in 10 minutes. Why the people the?

    00:31:36 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Bent and I said yeah, you've got, you've got a fair point and kind of left him to it. So some people see value, some people will think it's.

    00:31:45 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    You know, a romantic idea going back in time, but I think with how fast the world is changing and how frightening, frighteningly fast it's changing, especially with the conflict, et cetera. As you know, with your background, what we're only ever 1-2 degrees away from another disaster, something going wrong. So the more we establish these alternative means of doing things, I think the better.

    00:32:03

    Yeah.

    00:32:08 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    We aren't gonna be equipped as a society, not just as a business, but I.

    00:32:12 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Mean more broadly.

    00:32:14 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    So it's important.

    00:32:14 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yeah. No, I totally agree. And and and what I'm thinking back to your your apple juice customer as well is that whilst to him 10 minutes up the road in the van solves his problem in the here and now actually if I mean if if you put on social media saying our our apple juice is sourced and travel sustainably.

    00:32:26 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Yes.

    00:32:35 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Via, you know, via the East Coast on these incredibly beautiful stunning ships.

    00:32:40 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    I mean like.

    00:32:40 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    You've got like weeks worth of content for social media there and.

    00:32:44 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    You know, it's a story. There's a there's a whole movement right now around kind of brand storytelling. So brands showing, you know, this is where we originated from this, what we believe in. This is what makes us different, you know, and that's that's a kind of whole kind of centre centre concept around sort of this. You know this content marketing movement and.

    00:33:04 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    And I'm just thinking that that apple juice guy is he's missing out on this massive tricky, you know, who can you know, rather trying to compete with them all these, you know, the big supermarket.

    00:33:10 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Yes.

    00:33:15 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Companies, you can do apple juice on so much cheaper than he can. He's he's got better story on his door, you know, literally coming onto his lap and he's just said.

    00:33:21 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Yes.

    00:33:24 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    No to it.

    00:33:24 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Yes.

    00:33:27 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    I know well. I mean, it's north. It's quite a a rural traditional community. So some of these ideas for you, you know, I know you're not in London, but you're often in and out at a normal and it's being discussed and it's happening, but around the edges of the country, a lot of this hasn't spread. So it it just takes a bit of time. But I do remember.

    00:33:38

    Yeah.

    00:33:46 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    The end of pandemic, certainly. I think it's most UK, not just north of we couldn't get fuel for about two or three.

    00:33:52 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Weeks and you have to think carefully about. Well, look, I I actually I can't risk going out because I'm probably can't get diesel. So we've already been in that situation once over the last couple of years. So yeah, I mean I'm convinced it's it's worth exploring.

    00:33:53

    Yeah.

    00:34:10 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yeah, definitely. There's nothing to say that you know, as we move away from fossil fuels as well is that there won't be a bigger return back to. There's more sustainable methods and.

    00:34:19 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Yes.

    00:34:21 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    You know, particular, I remember that, like you say, when that I was in London actually when that when the fuel crisis was happening and it was it was, you know, the ridiculous amount of queues around all the fuel stations, it was almost becoming like Chinese whispers, you know, of like, oh, there's one, you know in in this in this.

    00:34:29 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Yes.

    00:34:36 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Bar there's got some feel, apparently.

    00:34:37 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Yes.

    00:34:38 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    You get there and it's never clean, no fuel there, but.

    00:34:40 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    It's crazy, isn't it? And that and that point for us. So it took the, you know, it's a massive risk cause it's cost a fortune. But this new vessel that we've bought.

    00:34:41

    Was.

    00:34:50 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Was made right at the end of the the Golden era of sail when boats were made to sail efficiently, so the the bowls were incredibly narrow, so it can tack up the small channels of King's Lynn. It's flat on the bottom, so it can sit on the sand.

    00:35:04 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Lot of the boats built after that were a lot more broader, so they could carry carry more cargo or fish or whatever it may be and they knew with a big massive diesel engine the boat didn't have to be efficient in the water, could just push.

    00:35:17 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Through so. So now of course, we gotta think about things differently. These more efficient whole shapes important. And this is one, OK. It wasn't designed by a a naval architect, but it's designed by generation after generation of fishermen that used it everyday to get into the wash. So just that preserving that knowledge.

    00:35:18

    Yeah, yeah.

    00:35:37 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Is another part that we thought was important as well.

    00:35:41 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yeah, I mean, and I guess it's it's iterative design. So it's become the most efficient through many generations before that rather than obviously if you if you just approach shipbuilding now, I guess there probably is an element of iterative design, but it's going to be more theoretical based off starting something from scratch which you know as we.

    00:35:45 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Yes.

    00:36:00 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    As we as we've seen with kind of all new technologies actually is a much more inefficient way of more like to to break or or not work in a way that it's designed aside from scratch.

    00:36:08 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Yes, yes.

    00:36:11 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    And this is.

    00:36:12 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Well, we've just caught hopefully just caught the.

    00:36:15 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Of that, that period where we've managed to save some of these boats. So it's another, it's an important bridge between the past and the present that will hopefully be useful in the future.

    00:36:25 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yeah. Fascinating. And I and I guess well so, so.

    00:36:30 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    What? What's the kind of the best way for people to find you? You know, find the company and certainly engage with it. I guess. I guess so. The website and Instagram are gonna be the first.

    00:36:41 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Yes, yes, website Instagram, coastal exploration company and then Google. If you Google coastal Exploration Company of the articles and the media and some of the films come up as well. But yes, Instagram is the one that I'm on almost every day to the point that I have to force myself off it because you absorb so much time.

    00:36:41 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    There's points of contact.

    00:37:02 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    It really is is that it can feel like a black hole sometimes of attention, but it I guess it does. It does lead me on to kind of like one of my final questions is is do you have any words or advice for star taps and people pursuing kind of you know building their own their own?

    00:37:03 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Oh.

    00:37:06 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Yes.

    00:37:16 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Seeing their own project, they're an enterprise.

    00:37:19

    Uh.

    00:37:21 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    I think I think as I said before, Chris.

    00:37:23 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    It's just having.

    00:37:25 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Just taking that first step and a lot of it will unfold.

    00:37:30 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Accepting that you're probably gonna get shorter money, resources and the.

    00:37:33 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Rest of it.

    00:37:34 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    And it doesn't have to be a continuous gradual build. I mean, I have after the first couple of years I have to go back and do security work for six months to earn more money.

    00:37:43 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Kept it going just and then returned to it, so you'll have periods where you progress massively and then you've perhaps got to consolidate and do something else for a while. So it's never a linear process, but in some ways that makes it interesting as well. I think it's just maintaining that vision and keep working towards the vision and being incredibly flexible.

    00:38:02 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yeah, yeah.

    00:38:04 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    That's great advice. Remember the first time we met in London? I think it was actually. And and you would. You told me about it. And I think you were just about to fly out somewhere. If, if memory serves.

    00:38:09 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Yes.

    00:38:12 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Correct, but look looking on it now and and how big coastal exploration company is and how well defined the the services are. It's it's I think it's it's great advice because it's it's almost shows that kind of that path to building something great and sustainable. There's never just a linear journey.

    00:38:32 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    It's a case of you get setbacks, then you get unexpected wins and you get.

    00:38:37 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    You know, unexpected problems that you you would never be able to see, you know, no matter how detailed your business plan is, you'll never be able to see things like the pandemic or you know or, you know, kind of the fuel crisis, for example, you know, coming out and but I think having that perseverance is like you say it's it's one of the the big character.

    00:38:48 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Yes.

    00:38:57 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Character skills that you that keep you getting long term isn't it? And I guess.

    00:39:02 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Yes, yes it is.

    00:39:05 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    And and with that, just seizing every opportunity, if anybody wants to come and meet me or, you know, come out on the trip and do photos or whatever, sometimes they can't pay. I'll always take them out. And it's amazing where some of those connections lead as well. So constantly engaging and meeting people and taking every opportunity that comes your way.

    00:39:27 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    As long as I've got the energy, I'll get out there and take somebody out on the boat. If they turn up.

    00:39:33 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    I think, well, I I that's a a fantastic place to to to finish it and I'll I'll definitely in the show notes for the episode, make sure that that that kind gesture is is include. I think there'll be loads of veterans who who are certainly probably ringing you up or messaging you and and you.

    00:39:51 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Know kind of.

    00:39:52 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Asking for advice and insight on how to do.

    00:39:55 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    This as well so.

    00:39:55 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Yes. Well, if there's any, any veterans can drive a boat, they they're also welcome to contact me as well. Always looking for more skippers.

    00:40:03 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Yeah. Let me make the book next. Now, you know, just knocking down your door saying we get part of this.

    00:40:04 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    Always.

    00:40:09 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    Hope so that's exactly.

    00:40:11 Henry Chamberlain, former Royal Marines Commando officer, humanitarian security advisor and founder of the Coastal Exploration Company – a business that offers eco-friendly sailing experiences for those looking to disconnect from laptops and phones, and r

    What we need, please do.

    00:40:14 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    It was really great chatting to Henry about how he's tackled some of those difficult problems and adventure travel company has funds know more about the coastal exploration company cheque out the show notes below and I'll see.

    00:40:23 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

    You next time.

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